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New/Old David Bradley 59 in SW Michigan


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Old 01-23-2015, 12:40:47 PM
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Hi all , I have just purchased a DB 59 Suburban - My uncle has an all original one in his garage but would not sell it to me so I found my own .
I fell in love with the style of this tractor and got a great deal on this machine.

It is all here and in great condition for its age .
I have been using this site as a research source and hope maybe someone can hook me up with a lead for the belt cover on the other side of the machine , and the 'pull-start' engine shroud .
New Tires and some TLC will do wonders for this !!
Any info on the motor will be helpful too.
MOD 143302 Type 502527 Ser 17690
Appears to be original to the machine
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917-60601 Ser 3658
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pepper,
i am guessing that it is a briggs model 14 engine.
how old are you? is this your first "toy"?

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I am not sure of the motor . Here are the picts close up.
I am 53 YO and this is my first Vintage toy of any Kind . This is Just about as old as I am .



\/ This is what I hope to get to

I found the blade today and will pick it up next week
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if your tractor is a 59 model, the correct engine would be a 143302. If its a yr newer and up then it would be a 143402. It is not a model 14, as they were cast iron engines, and this one will be Aluminum. The hp is 5.75 and later on a full 6hp. I know that the shroud from a more modern 5hp will fit and work, just not be the correct looking one. Your tractor looks pretty complete, should be a fairly easy restore.
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Old 01-24-2015, 11:30:38 PM
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dad has a two wheeled db with same engine. i will check his shroud, and compare to stuff in junk pile. if i have it, will give you a shout. it will be CHEAP
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Thank You 57 chevy nut !! I hope you can locate it . I haven't had too much luck finding anything - I do want the original 'looking' one if possible .
I am afraid to get it running without it - just don't want to lose any fingers on the flywheel.
I found this breakdown on another site .
This is how the Suburban model numbers break down:
601-602 ....1959
613-614.....1960
616-617-618-619....1961
622-623-624....1962
628-629-630.....1963
633-634-637......1964
644-645-646-647......1965
I have the 601
My uncle has the 613 (pictured)100% Original
Very subtle differences.
His motor does have the 143402 model on it .

We did determine the 14 stands for 14CID which =s about 5.75 hp
I did play around a bit with my machine and got the Mule Drive off - Was amazingly easy , Also the front wheels came off very easy Left wheel = left hand threads . This thing may be old but it was kept pretty well.
For the record , I had to pay $200 for this.
A little penetrating oil freed up the clutch and reverse levers .
This really should not be too hard to get working . It will be fun to tinker with !
TY Jeff you were exactly right on the Engine model #s - everything mechanical is in place and functioning , even the wheel brakes , what a lucky find !
I am very happy that I decided to do this thing . It isn't for money or to show off - It is the joy of fixing something old - The wonder of changing technology , and a sense of accomplishment.
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Default Re: New/Old David Bradley 59 in SW Michigan

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The wonder of changing technology , and a sense of accomplishment.
The wonder of changing technology is changing something good, that works forever in junk so they can sell you a new one every couple of years. It is a gerat sense of accomplishment restoring and using old equipment they thought was junk when they quit using it. Little did they know.

Welcome and watch out. It's addicting.
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The wonder of changing technology is changing something good, that works forever into junk so they can sell you a new one every couple of years.

Welcome and watch out. It's addicting.
LOL /\ So true .
I am already addicted , My uncle is a real source of knowledge and inspiration . He has many nice old things in this garage .

Old Iron hit & miss motors - 64.5 Mustang - 31 Fords
He is excited about my new/old Tractor too. Offered me an instant $100 profit On the spot .

I am going to frame this old advert. for him for his B-Day Feb 14th
Appealing to the "Keeping up with the Jones's"
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no luck so far today, but was busy killing possum from chicken house, and rebuilding heads for neice's car. did a quick walk around and didnt see one.

will keep looking. will even keep eye out on ebay as i do my daily search for the elusive briggs engines i am looking for.

don the nut
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Jeff above is the 'go to' guy. I have the 614 and 622 in the round hood models.
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Jeff above is the 'go to' guy. I have the 614 and 622 in the round hood models.
WOW - Those are a couple of classic looking machines - love the attachments.
I do have a lead on the shroud - have to wait to see if it pans out.
I ran my own lawn service locally for 8 years with a Murray 12 HP - I was constantly having to fix the damn thing . I wish I had one of these at the time.
I hope to maybe get the 3 pt. hitch with a plow at some point , but right now I just want to be able to push a bit of snow off of my driveway .
I see you like to keep the aged looking patina , My brother suggested that I do this . I am more inclined to have it looking like a new machine.
What are your opinions on this?
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im not sure I would go crazy on painting it, at least not right away. Get all the mech stuff worked out first and find out whats bad, whats going bad, and replace the missing stuff. You got a dozer blade?, if so you can push all kinds of snow/dirt.
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i am with jeff, get everything working right first, find out what is leaking, get the seals that need attention done, then since it is yours, you make it the way you want.

the back end is essentially the same as the walking tractors, just slightly different for attaching to frame. if you put one of the 5.75 two wheeled tractors beside the riding one, you will find that most of the pulleys are the same.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141523907312...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261744611305...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181650025960...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181650025986...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161574780658...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT whole engine

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/390999116973...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291355118122...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

those are the only ones i was able to find this afternoon. i think the ones that have the cast aluminim recoil are the closest to being correct.
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I have searched high and low - I am dead set on finding one like this.

Needs to have the ribs molded in , and the B - S
There has to be one out there some where.
I can't do much till it warms up anyway so I will keep looking .
2 Holes on top - the bottom holes are on the round
- angled in-
// ____ \\
approx. 5.5 inches on center.
I found a source for the tires - They will cost as much as I paid for the machine .
I will at least clean those rims up and paint them the right color
For me that is part of the charm of this , the unusual colors.
I realize I am new to this and throwing myself at it .
But I know myself ... and when something calls to me , I answer.
I was a Heavy Equipment operator in the Navy SeaBees
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you should go here, a place that is completely into GT's. GTTALK.COM
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I can't see your pictures, some features don't work at my office, but here is the shroud you are looking for, not perfect but useable, with or without the recoil. Message me if interested.
As far as painting, the two I pictured are 'nice' enough and the blue one is 'rare' enough that they will probably stay original. Once you paint them nicely, you hate to use them. My sons looks rough, but he uses the heck out of it, so it probably won't get painted either.
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I have sent you a message - That is the shroud I am looking for !!
Thank You !!
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You got a dozer blade?,
I do now , picked this up yesterday !

It is from a later model , left handed ( I am a lefty)
Genuine S&R 91760643 It is complete locked right in works great !
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ureka,
i have the right recoil, and shroud, but shroud needs a little work.
let me know if you want it. 7 bucks plus actual shipping.
don
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ureka,
i have the right recoil, and shroud, but shroud needs a little work.
let me know if you want it. 7 bucks plus actual shipping.
don
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I will pay the shipping ...The right one is a cast aluminum recoil.
IWL -BCNU is tin recoil ...I would use it ...but , If you have the right one ...
This machine needs it ...Rusty wants it.

---------- Post added at 12:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:34 AM ----------

I need both of them.
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