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Old 01-06-2005, 02:04:35 PM
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I was reading through "Diesel's Engines" by Lyle Cummins last night and got thinking about Hvid type oil engines. It mentioned that some people don't classify this type of engine as a true diesel engine. I was wondering if anyone had any opinions either way. It also mentioned that there were 11 Hvid licensees of the patent, but didn't list them. I have heard of: Hercules/Thermoil/Burnoil, Brantfrod/Hoag, Cummins, Parkersburg, Pohl, Jones, St. Mary's, Evinrude, and Dunn. Anyone else have any others? Some of the above engines may have been built by others.
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The Davenport Oil Engine is another HVID.
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"Boos" is another one

Here is a pic of a 8HP Boos that I found in the wild

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Tom -

Did that one end up following you home? It would be shame to leave an interesting engine like that to the elements.

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It's still there Chris, but hopefully to follow me home soon.

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Default Re: Hvid engines

Hvid bought the "Brons" patent for $51.000.00 and changed it, so they got their own patent.
But the "Brons" patent was the beginning of all the makes allround the world.
In the picture Mr. Brons the inventor of the system, in the second picture his model of a safety engine.

Other makes: Brons, Sormowo, Verwer, Timmer, Deutz-Brons, van Berkel, Ransomes, Laurin & Klement, Thermoil and McDonald.
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Tom..It sure looks to me like that's a Thermoil with an alais...nice find!!
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The way I undestand it, a Diesel injects the fuel into the cylinder in a timed sequence with the compression stroke. That was the heart of Diesel's patent.
In the Hvid and Brons engines, the fuel is metered into a fuel cup on the engine intake stroke and when it comes up on compression, the fuel in the cup is ignited and it is blown out in to the cylinder to complete the combustion process.
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Here is a picture of my 3 HP Pohl. Although the tag states the engine was built under lisence from R. M. Hvid, the listed patent numbers were all issued to Brons.
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Nice Pohl Woody...I think you used to own the 3 1/2 HP Brantford (HVID) that I have..I also have a 6 HP Thermoil...love them oil engines!!!!!!
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Here is a link to a web site with some more pictures of Hvid engines.
http://www.arcticrail.com/engines/en...hvidpage5.html
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In my opinion if it is compression ignition it is a diesel. My 6 Hp Hoag sounds, smokes and smells like a diesel.
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