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Old 02-04-2005, 03:13:25 AM
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A while ago I posted pictures of an unknown upright stationary engine that I thought might be a Goold, Shapley & Muir "Ideal". From responses and pictures received I've pretty much decided that it's not a GS&M. There were suggestions of a London or Hildreth but haven't received any additional info on those engines to form an opinion.

Tonight while browsing through one of my photo albums looking for a picture of an unrelated engine stumbled across a picture that I had taken almost 6 years ago at a museum in Creston, BC. It's almost the spittin' image of the mystery engine and I've got some info recorded on the back of the photo.
"The Sprayer Engine" No. 10237 1 1/2 HP Manufactured by The Bean Spray Pump, San Jose, Calif., Berea, Ohio.

I've emailed the museum to see if I can get additional info such as flywheel diameter, part numbers etc. to see how they compare. In the meantime if anyone has one of these engines would like to hear from you.

Thanks for any assistance in helping me ID this engine.

Bill
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Old 02-04-2005, 03:53:18 AM
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spittin' image of the mystery engine and I've got some info recorded on the back of the photo.
"The Sprayer Engine" No. 10237 1 1/2 HP Manufactured by The Bean Spray Pump, San Jose, Calif., Berea, Ohio.
Hi Bill,
I think you've got an engine that was built for Bean by Novo.

Rob
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Rob,

The Novo design is similar but part numbers that can be found are different according to what I've been told by the owner of an identical engine who is also trying to ID his engine. According to the information in Wendel's engine bible the Bean Spray Pump Company had factories in Lansing, Mich. as well as the San Jose, Calif. plant and would appear that they built their own engines. Possibly the sprayer company switched to Novo built engines at some point??

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Old 02-04-2005, 11:21:24 PM
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[QUOTE=Bill Sherlock]Rob,

The Novo design is similar but part numbers that can be found are different according to what I've been told by the owner of an identical engine who is also trying to ID his engine. According to the information in Wendel's engine bible the Bean Spray Pump Company had factories in Lansing, Mich. as well as the San Jose, Calif. plant and would appear that they built their own engines. Possibly the sprayer company switched to Novo built engines at some point??

Here is a picture of a plate from an engine that I owned at one time. It had this name plate on one side of the hopper with a Novo decal on the other side, and the cylinder covers both had NOVO cast in them, so not knowing better, I replaced the tag with a repro tag. I have two Novo engines now and have had others, and they all looked the same, except for size and some have a different shape carb/mixer. sorry it's hard to get a good picture when the plate is hard to read and the flash takes up half the picture
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John,

Thanks for posting the picture of the ID plate of "The Sprayer Engine" manufactured by The Bean Spray Pump Co. It has basically the same information as the tag on the engine at the Creston, BC museum, other than serial number and HP. At the present time I don't know if the engine at the museum has a Novo decal or Novo name cast into the hand hole covers.

Would it be asking too much to have you advise the part numbers on the fuel pump and governor weight on your Novo engines ( 2 1/2 HP). The numbers on the mystery engine are J40AV - fuel pump; J40MA - governor weight;
J40RE - mixer (carb)

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Rob,
The Novo design is similar but part numbers that can be found are different according to what I've been told by the owner of an identical engine who is also trying to ID his engine. According to the information in Wendel's engine bible the Bean Spray Pump Company had factories in Lansing, Mich. as well as the San Jose, Calif. plant and would appear that they built their own engines. Possibly the sprayer company switched to Novo built engines at some point??
Hi Bill,
I don't know the answer to your question off the top of my head. Our Bean orchard sprayer has an engine with a Bean tag and access covers with the Novo insignia.

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John,

Thanks for posting the picture of the ID plate of "The Sprayer Engine" manufactured by The Bean Spray Pump Co. It has basically the same information as the tag on the engine at the Creston, BC museum, other than serial number and HP. At the present time I don't know if the engine at the museum has a Novo decal or Novo name cast into the hand hole covers.

Would it be asking too much to have you advise the part numbers on the fuel pump and governor weight on your Novo engines ( 2 1/2 HP). The numbers on the mystery engine are J40AV - fuel pump; J40MA - governor weight;
J40RE - mixer (carb)

Bill
Bill, I no longer own this engine, however I think I can get the information for you. It may take a couple days. When I do I will post it here. John
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Would it be asking too much to have you advise the part numbers on the fuel pump and governor weight on your Novo engines ( 2 1/2 HP). The numbers on the mystery engine are J40AV - fuel pump; J40MA - governor weight;
J40RE - mixer (carb)

Bill
I checked with the new owner of this engine about the part numbers. He checked and all the part numbers start with 2 -S except the Carb/mixer and it's 4S. None start with a J. So I guess I'm not much help!! John
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Thanks John, looks like I can eliminate Bean Spray Pump Co. and likely Novo from my list of possibilities.

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Old 02-07-2005, 05:53:58 PM
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A friend of mine is currently restoring an engine that looks just like yours. His has Novo cast into the access covers and a square brass tag on the hopper that says "Novo Engine manufactured for the Bean Spray pump Company". and also includes the Bean companys address . This leaves little doubt in my mind that Novo Supplied engines to Bean. I don't know that Bean ever built there very own engine.
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