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Old 03-05-2005, 12:18:49 AM
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What exactly is a swingtop oiler? I have a couple of very nice, large Essex oilers that have a pump handle and a shut-off valve on the bottom. I see similar oilers being sold as "swingtop" oilers and it occurred to me that I really don't know what's what in this department.

Perhaps some of you have some favorite oiler photos that you could share that would help illustrate the "swingtop" and other types of oilers. I would appreciate the education and perhaps others would as well. Thanks, as always.
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I would also like a lesson

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Default Re: Swingtop oilers

Search Ebay for SWING TOP oiler and/or SWINGTOP oiler. All it amounts to is a lever you "SWING" to screw open the oil feed. THAT and a LOT of money......
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Kid: Check this eBay link for a view of a Lunkenheimer Paragon Swing Top Gas Engine Brass Oiler. Don't worry about the price on it, it's already been sold .

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Check this eBay link for a view of a Lunkenheimer Paragon Swing Top Gas Engine Brass Oiler. Don't worry about the price on it, it's already been sold.
Sure Paul!!! I suppose YOU bought it...........................
HOLY COW----not even ONE bid?????
Anyway, Walker has sure been selling some serious stuff!!!!
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Out of the 11 bids on that swing top, 7 (seven) were over $700 . I guess if you need that for some special and rare engine worth some big bucks, +/-, $811 dollars isn't much at all in the scheme of things. I wouldn't display an engine with it on it unless Mr. Colt, Dober-man, Smith or Wesson was watching closely , and NO Craig, I didn't buy it .
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I guess the two oilers on my Cinncinatti No2 Miller are worth more the the entire machine, tooling and all!! Matching Lunkenheimers at that! Origional equipment as far as I know.
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Sad but true. Horizontal mills are not valued very highly nowadays. I felt lucky to get $250 for the Hendee-Norton that I sold some years ago. Al Wait
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I guess the two oilers on my Cinncinatti No2 Miller are worth more the the entire machine, tooling and all!! Matching Lunkenheimers at that! Origional equipment as far as I know.
OMG man!!!!!! Sell 'em and get some cheapo repops!!! I can't hardly THINK what a matched pair could bring~~~~~~~
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Peter: Nice oilers. I know a guy who has a box full of oilers . Now if I can get them, is another story. He says he can't find them in his warehouses full of "STUFF". I got a couple from him awhile back. I'll just keep on asking when I see him.
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Default Re: Swingtop oilers

The one that sold for $811. was not a "ordinary" Lunkenheimer swing top oiler.This was a swing top Paragon which was a much earlier and rarer oiler.Lunkenheimer swing top Crown oilers sell in the $200. range. As most of you know the Paragon is the oiler with the vent tube and check ball. Add the swing top to that and you have a rare oiler. I was the second bidder and got beat by a sniper "friend" of mine in the last 8 seconds. I have seen them go much higher than that.
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Hi John,

You are a brave man to admitt to being one of those bidders. I'd like to ask a serious question. Do you know what are some of the specific applications for the more common ordinary Lunkenhemimer swing top. I never saw one on an engine, just on my Cinn miller. I'd like to know what I have.
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Peter; According to the 1912 Lunkenheimer catalog, the Crown swing top oiler was used on "stationary bearings". The common Sentinal "with snap lever feed control" also was used for stationary bearings. The Lunkenheimer Paragon oiler was to be used on gas engines because of the check ball and the vent tube. The Lunkenheimer Mars also was for use on engines.

Today the Sentinal is the cheaper oiler to buy and is used a lot on gas engines a lot today. The swing tops are expensive. However in the 1912 catalog price for the 1 1/2 size, the Crown swing top sold for $1.75, the Sentinal sold for $3.50 and the Paragon sold for $2.00. The very desirable Mars sold for $5.80 (# 2) Would like to buy a carload at those prices.
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Default Re: Swingtop oilers

Kid-sometimes getting a simple answer here is like pulling teeth. What you have is a pump oiler and not a swing top. I believe Essex still offers these, at least on my Essex price list. If you'll call me at 440-272-5335 during the day I'll look up the price of what they are now. Ed
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