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4HP Ottawa with New Head


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Old 04-05-2005, 04:31:11 PM
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Almost a year ago, we posted pictures of a new head that was fabricated for us by some friends, for a 4HP Ottawa.

The engine is now completed. Since there are hundreds of new collectors on Harry's, we thought we would share the pictures.

We had no involvement in fabricating the head. The techniques belong to the friends that did the work, for which we are very grateful.

Pictures can be seen at:
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/Albu...0&a=31704926&f=

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Very nice job on the Ottawa George & Helen.I would hate to get grease and oil on such a nice restoration.
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Very nice job on the Ottawa George & Helen.I would hate to get grease and oil on such a nice restoration.
Thanks. It will not look this way for long. But the smoother the finish the easier they are to clean.

Here is another one, just an earlier engine:
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/Albu...a=31704911&f=0

Hope I have the correct engine now!

I really wanted to show the new head...Helen

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Do you own all the engines in that gallery or are some of the other people's engines? If they're all yours, all i can say is WOW! I know this has come up before, but i was just curious as to what you put on the unpainted parts to keep them looking shiney and new and preventing rust from forming? Things like the steel oilers and push rods? Absolutely terrific looking engines!

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Do you own all the engines in that gallery or are some of the other people's engines? If they're all yours, all i can say is WOW! I Absolutely terrific looking engines!
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You can say wow minus the last three albums.

As I said in my earlier post, they only look that good at picture time. There are never that clean again. I'm sure if you can store your engines on a wood floor there would be less problem with minor rust on push rods etc. We have had 2 years of very wet weather. We do try to keep air moving thru the building. That is the only thing that can move thru it. We suffer from a lot of bruised shins!

We do have a Witte Dragsaw, 1 1/2HP Witte and a 1 1/2HP McCormick-Deering.... Helen
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But what do you use to keep the metal from corroding over time?

Also, the album you have linked to....is that paper pulley an original? I can't help but remark at how similar it is to the Ferguson A-LO-19 cordwood saw pulley that I run with my 1947 Ford 2N tractor. Paper pulleys out of TN really does some nice work, don't they!

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But what do you use to keep the metal from corroding over time?

Also, the album you have linked to....is that paper pulley an original? (snip) Paper pulleys out of TN really does some nice work, don't they!

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We haven't had any corrosion problem. But we have only been collecting for 12 years. Only our vehicles corrode! Big time!

We don't know if it was the original pulley shipped with the engine or not. It was on it when we got it. It is in nice condition though. I imagine many companies bought pulleys rather than manufacture them. Look at the name on some of the clutch pulleys.

I imagine it is rather costly to have a paper pulley redone but nothing like having a head made! Gotta luv your iron!!! Helen
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Well, by "corrosion", i was meaning things like rusting. I know that the moving parts generally don't rust up. Parts like the cam follower wheel and governor lock out lever spinner wheel. But do you do any treating to the other parts to keep them from rusting? What about the push rods, steel grease cups, and other exposed parts that dont' really have anything to rub up against and keep them polished and shiney? If that pulley was on the engine when you got it, then somebody either recently had it redone, or took DARNED good care of it. I've never seen an original in that nice a shape before. If you have them redone, it's about $117 or so, and that's if you have a core to work from.

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The biggest problem that we have is surface rust when transporting a newly finished engine on an open trailer thru the rain.

Many times when I clean an engine I will spray it with WD40 to help clean the dirt off of it. Also we paint the face of the flywheels. I guess you call the outer edge the face. We do not expect the engines to remain looking like they were just done.

Our engines are very well oiled by George because he doesn't do the cleaning.

Yes, we do get some rust. Otherwise, it wouldn't be iron.

Hope this answers your question.....Helen
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As for rust......I find that after restoring an engine you shouldn't use solvent or degreaser on it or all the bare metal parts will quickly acquire a -patina-.

When you're through running it, just wipe it down and don't change the rag often. That will leave a thin coat of oil on the engine.

Take care - Elden
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