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Old Galloway Picture - Special Magneto


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Old 04-06-2005, 07:59:00 AM
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Has any one seen a Mag set up like this one? -- Bill

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Default Re: Old Picture - Special Magneto

That's a beautiful picture Bill!
I stared at it for a long time (as you probably did), trying to imagine all the stuff I couldn't see. I imagined some sort of side shaft spinning it, but what is that hand crank affair there? What sort of engine is it anyway? Do we need to know the mag set up to ID the engine, or is it possibly some jury rigged mag on an engine we could ID by its other characteristics?
I've often thought a book with old engines in use such as this would be a good seller. Is anyone feeling ambitious?
THanks Bill, Kevin
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Question Re: Old Picture - Special Magneto

The engine looks similar to the" Ingeco " on page 243 of BYB by Wendel.
They do show a tank cooled with a sideshaft?It is a unique mag set-up,
Quite ingenious ! I haven't seen many Ingeco engines, so this is just a wild
guess.
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Default Re: Old Picture - Special Magneto

looking at the hopper shape and the clutch pulley design as well as the head I am thinking Galloway Round Rod for the engine with a tricked out ignition Possibly a dynamo with a right angle gearbox maybe belt driven off the flywheel???
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Default Re: Old Picture - Special Magneto

Just going out on a wild tangent, but do you reckon that based on the side shaft operation that the mag might be driven by means of some sort of friction means. I'm just thinking that the hand cranked device might be some means of getting the mag to spin fast enough to generate a spark when trying to start the engine. I don't know much at all about sideshafts or rotary mags.
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Default Re: Old Picture - Special Magneto

I don't know what it is , but I sure would like to hear it belted -up and running!
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Default Re: Old Picture - Special Magneto

I think Jebaroni is onto something with the hand crank being some sort of starting aid. One guy is spinning the mag while another is turning the engine over. The "sideshaft" that spins the mag could be a friction drive off of the inside edge of the flywheel that is engaged when the engine starts. The hand crank would have to be disengaged somehow, of course.

Certainly would be a lot easier to just run the mag off the flywheel by friction to begin with, but maybe Rube Goldberg designed this one!

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Default Re: Old Picture - Special Magneto

That's an older Galloway engine. I think that contraption on the back is not even driven by the engine but is maybe a hand operated blade sharpener or grinder or some other apuratus. It mounted next to the engine for easy access. It definately doesn't look like any sort of magneto, dynamo, or autosparker to me.
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Default Re: Old Picture - Special Magneto

A definite shape of horshoe magnets can be seen on the front left side of the cart. Tom may be right in that it might not be driven by the flywheel. Maybe it was difficult starting the engine on the original mag because it was turning so slow. Ive seen alot of complaints about that on here. (Did Galloway have one of those igniter mounted switches to switch from battery and coil to the mag? Im not up on Galloways.) Maybe instead of using the battery and coil they used a hand crank and dynamo to produce the spark to get the engine running, then switched over to the engine mounted mag.

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Default Re: Old Galloway Picture - Special Magneto

I don't know anything about the mag setup, But I like the way they didn't plan on the engine moving until they were through with it. You can see that the head end/ rear wheels a buried in the ground and the axle chained to something, probably a tree, then a big chunk of a log thrown across the chain to keep the slack out. The engine has a compression release petcock on the side of the cylinder which is common on the larger Galloways. Joe Morris
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