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Old 05-12-2005, 12:14:47 AM
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I'm trying to search this site for info on associated engine paint color but the search engine keeps throwing out the word associated. HELP!

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Old 05-12-2005, 12:52:41 AM
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For one thing, there aren't many threads with associated paint color in them.

http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=615

For another, some intelligent programmer back at the software company decided that the word associated was too common to be included in the index.

So, try assoc* paint color

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Here is a link to engine paint codes.
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It also does not allow boy or man either. I didn't think about using a wild card in the search string. That helps.

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Default Associated paint color

What exactly do I need to do to get a color match to the original paint on my Associated enignes? Do I need to take the entire engine to a paint shop and say: "Give me a paint code for this color"? Or are they going to laugh at me and say "Yeah right!" Lots of people want to get the correct shade for an Assocaited engine and Wendel's color ain't it. Just trying to help my fellow collector here Need some direction.
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What exactly do I need to do to get a color match to the original paint on my Associated enignes? Do I need to take the entire engine to a paint shop and say: "Give me a paint code for this color"? Or are they going to laugh at me and say "Yeah right!".
Already tried that. They are happy to do it. The only problem is that it's a completely unique base clear code that nobody seems to be able to cross to a single stage. 1 Qt of base coat was going to cost $65 plus reducer, plus clear coat, plus clear coat reducer, plus hardener. Personally, I'm not willing to spend way over $100 to do a little 1.5hp engine. The only place I haven't tried is some place like Sherwin Williams or Ace Hardware. At least there the base clear issue is resolved.

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But can you get an oil based paint tinted? Seems like the only custom color paints are laytex at thoes places.
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Sherwin williams has auto paint too. Remember a pint can of paint will make 1 quart of sprayable paint once you add the reducer and hardner. Yeh it will run over $100 but you will have plenty of reducer and hardner for another pint of paint for the next engine.
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Wendel's listing for Associated red is PPG 2622. If I understand Keith's post correctly he disagrees with that opinion. I haven't looked at that formula or mixed it, or tried to see what product choices there are, but will try tomorrow. (I'm a retired PPG and Sherwin Williams auto paint store owner for 25 yrs.) The key here is auto paint stores, not house paint stores.

My observation (over 25 yrs) is that in a typical fading situation the yellow oxide in a color fades first. In the case of a bright red it would age into a rather dark red.

If you don't like Wendel's number Keith what are you using? My Chore Boy is original paint, and is pretty dark.

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This is original Associated red:



As far as I know, below is what Wendel's paint code color turns out to be. I have seen a few engines painted this way, as a mater of fact I am stripping this shade of color off a very early Hired Man right now! What a Job!!!
If any one disagrees and has used the suggested paint color code and had great results, please tell me!
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I recently painted this 8 mule team with DuPont Nason #2622...It is close, but my very original hired man IS a slightly darker shade than this..HOWEVER, Red paint WILL darken as it ages...

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(I'm a retired PPG and Sherwin Williams auto paint store owner for 25 yrs.) The key here is auto paint stores, not house paint stores.

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We use only Sherwin Williams Automotive Acrylic Enamel on our Ottawas that we have restored. FYI Green Is JX9353 and Red is JX9382E. These are as near match to original as we could find. We have to remember the old original paints varied, also they faded. The original green on the Ottawas changed to almost black and the red became orange. Always check the color under washers etc for original shade. Very good results with Sherwin Williams. Also very congenial supplier. The red has just increased in price!....Helen

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Default Re: Smokestak Search for Associated Paint Colors

Keith I used Sikkens paint crossed from the Dupone 2622. It is hard to tell how close it is to correct.
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BOY, DID I SCREW UP! I apologize. Wendel's number is 2622, apparently Dupont NOT PPG. I do still stick to my theory tho that what was perhaps bright red 80 years ago is rather dark red today. My original Choreboy is more or less the same color (but not near as pretty) as Keith's. (I love original engines.)

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