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Old 07-07-2005, 10:42:45 PM
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I saw an engine today that I am pretty sure is an Ideal Lawn Mower engine but I think there have been a couple of modifications. I didn't have time to look at it real close but the castings seem to be intact without the dreaded CBW's. A quick measurement shows the flywheels to be about 10 inches in diameter.

Any idea of how this engine would have been originally equipped as far as carburetion and ignition is concerned? I suspect that what is there is not quite right. It does look like part of the original lawn mower mount is there.

Any thoughts on general value range if nothing major is broken inside would be appreciated.

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I've these engines around but never the mower itself. That's a shame. Anyone of closeups of the complete deal?
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Carb. should be a lukinhiemer(sp)Ign.on all the ones Ive seen were buzz coil(Model J pre wico).The oil filler is odd, too. I have that style engine and it doesnt have any pipe coming off the crank cover.? Maybe its a bluffton but those had a J style mixer Like a herc. A original with the right parts, running Ideal about 7-800.00? Even though it doesnt have the right carb. if it runs off that mag it should be worth close to that.Interesting addition by someone.BobRR
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Hi
I have a Ideal V(vertical)-I have been working on -nearly done.
It is missing the fan assembly and the shroud-Is there anyone that has these parts or possible where I could get made up-or good pictures that I could get reproduced?Any help would be appreciated.
Garry
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It looks to be a modified Bluffton. From what I know, the Blufftons were designed as a stationary engine with a "J" type mixer. I'm told this mixer didn't work very well if the engine was in motion (as on a lawn mower).

Your fuel tank is bolted to the place where the cooling fan should be attached.

My Bluffton has 10" flywheels but has a groove in each flywheel for a round leather belt.

I have seen one Ideal engine with a filler pipe coming out of the crank case but it was a fuel filler, the fuel tank was located in the base of the engine, below the crank case. Check to see if the base is hollow(open), or is there a tank hiding under there.

Is the hit and miss governing weight, mechanism, etc. still there? I'm wondering since this has a carb and maybe was converted to throttle control.

I hope this helps, I've been wrong a lot lately,

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Saw one today... tag on it said .1800.00 i said Sold..Estate mower..Roller..
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Hi.....

Thanks for all the information. Next time I get a chance to see the engine I'll try to figure out some of the details like if there are any governor parts, if the pipe out of the crank cover is original, etc. I only had time to snap a few pictures when I first saw it.

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I got an Ideal model model V lawnmower. It has spark. The carburetor looks like something had been dropped on it. The pot metal carburetor is broke the bottom half all most back to the butterfly.I need to find something to use as a carburetor.
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Default Re: Modified Ideal Lawn Mower Engine???

I have a friend who has told me about a throttle governed Ideal engine he has that he took off of a mower years ago. I never saw it, but from what he`s told me, it is similar to yours. I would wait until you know for sure that it has been modified, it might be a newer but rarer throttle governed one, which yours looks like.
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