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100KW with BUDA 6 cyl motor


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Old 08-16-2008, 01:06:58 AM
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Default 100KW with BUDA 6 cyl motor

I have a large generator with a BUDA 6 cyl. motor that has a 2cyl. pony motor and I would like to know if anyone can tell me when it was made. It runs but I haven't tried to generate electricity. The control panel is here but not hooked up, any sugestions on where to find info on the electric controls? It is 240 volt 3 phase 301 amp.
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Default Re: 100KW with BUDA 6 cyl motor

A little more info might be helpful...
On the Buda, does it have a tag with a model number or letter (or combination)? With a 2cyl starter motor we're probably talking about 1000cid or more; gasoline, natural gas or diesel?
While generators are outside my experience, I'd guess ditto re' builders name, tag, any ID info. Does it look like a military unit, or do you know any of it's history or where it came from/what it was used for?
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My 1944 BUDA powered generator end was covered with things that had 44 in the serial number. I strongly suspected it was from the 1940's, but didn't know until I finally scraped some dust and grime off and the light was just right so I could see a casting date on the side of the block.

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Default Re: 100KW with BUDA 6 cyl motor

Probably one of the more common large BUDA engines was the 844. I have seen the diesels listed as anywhere from 180 hp which might be a little small for 100kW to as high as 280 hp. I have never seen one or even a picture of one with a pony motor, but probably that depended on how they were ordered from the manufacturer. If you have a diesel set, it is very likely to have an 844. You see engines, parts for engines and manuals on ebay quite often.

Buda was bought by Allis Chalmers when GM began making their own line of earthmoving equipment in competetion with AC instead of selling them GM diesel engines for AC equipment. The 844 was developed into some more powerful engines which didn't have a very good reputation for reliability and tarnished AC's name a bit.
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It is set up to run on gasoline. I was told that it was probably military, but the markings I'm seeing look more like civilian markings. The carburetor looks like a larger version of the one on my 1934 Caterpillar 22. It was set up to start on gas and switch to diesel, but I don't see any evidence this one was set up that way.

Where on the block did you find those casting dates? I don't see any on mine, but it would be helpful if I knew where to look.

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Default Re: 100KW with BUDA 6 cyl motor

I do not think itis military because it does not have a sheilded ignition system.

Kent
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I was on one C4 stick general cargo ship that had an Emergency Generator set up like this one. Monster six cylinder diesel Buda like this. No engine housing though since the whole machine sat in a designated space built into the stack. The radiator pressed up against a water tight storm shutter on the stack side, which was kept closed except when needed. Based on the instruction books I was lead to believe this was War Two built Original Equipment? Ship began life as a 10,000 HP steam turbine 18 knot cruise, 26 knot max ,10,000 ton Fast Troop Transport.
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Well, when I saw the first pic I would've bet if it was military it'd be WWI, with the cyls cast in pairs, usually bolted to the crankcase....
The tag says it all: it's a Buda JL1335, and I'd assume the 1335 is the cid. The 850RPM usually means big and old.
My engine lists are sadly incomplete, coming from old parts catalogs; the first one to show JL's (working from oldest up to newest) is a 1944 Sealed Power, which shows two:
JL877 a 4cyl, bore 61/4 (stroke not shown); and
JL1335, a 6cyl, same bore. (I wonder if they're the same engine except for number of cyl's; it"d simplify parts). This catalog shows no years of use.
The only other to show a JL in my stuff is a 39 Hastings catalog, which just shows the 4cyl 877. Later (and various earlier) catalogs don't list them.
That doesn't necessarily mean they weren't in use; it could be that the parts company didn't get enough calls to mfr/stock the parts.
I'd still guess quite early introduction:late teens/early 20's???
Casting origin/dates is generally in code; you need to copy any numbers/letters you find forged on or stamped on, and hope (pray) someone has old Buda production info.
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This looks like a home brew genset, a clutch?... no insturmentation between the engine and generator.
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Does anyone know when Buda began using the Lanova pre-combustion design for some of their diesels, or when the Lanova design was introduced??
I scratched around some, but couldn't come up with the right words to punch in to get a company or design history.
Earliest I found were references to mid-30's; if that's correct, my guess as to age is sadly off, altho it sure looks like an oldie!.
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