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A Thing of Beauty is a Joy Forever


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Old 09-18-2008, 03:33:03 PM
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Malcolm,

With that type of front end as shown in the link page; how does one go about punching the flues? I see that more than half of the flues would be located below the curvature of the plate for allowing the roller to rotate for steering. I would think that if one can't effectively clean the flues that it would, in short time, lower the heat transfer and could end up plugging a few flues with soiled material from the soot. Curious????

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Lawrence,

Cleaning the tubes on a roller is not the easiest of jobs, I have never done it myself but have seen it done. There is enough room between the top of the roll and the fork to reach the lower rows of tubes and above the fork to reach the upper rows. With a bit of flexibility in the cleaning brush rod all the tubes can be reached. I note that you refer to them as 'flues' whereas we call them 'tubes', yet another example of two nations divided by a common language.

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Old 09-18-2008, 04:34:06 PM
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I'm going to have a guess, I think this is Garrett No.34594, a 10 ton compound roller. Not sure where the photo was taken, but it could be either Chatham dockyard in Kent or Bicknells boiler works in Hampshire.

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This roller is a 12 ton "autocrat" class roller, not the more usual 10 ton 4cd engine, it has more in common with the 6 NHP Garrett showmans engine "British Hero" located in Ireland
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Welding doesn't have much of a part to play in the restoration of engines in the UK as it is not how it was done originally
What beautiful work. Excellent!
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Lawrence,

Cleaning the tubes on a roller is not the easiest of jobs, I have never done it myself but have seen it done. There is enough room between the top of the roll and the fork to reach the lower rows of tubes and above the fork to reach the upper rows. With a bit of flexibility in the cleaning brush rod all the tubes can be reached. I note that you refer to them as 'flues' whereas we call them 'tubes', yet another example of two nations divided by a common language.

Malc.

And I refer to them as both.
The 1913 Buffalo-Pitts roller at the AG&SEM in Vista has a smokebox door that collides with the front pedestal. You actually have to remove the smokebox door to access the flues (or tubes proper?). Not the best design

I remember seeing pictures of one engine that had to have its tubes punched from the firebox door.
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Just for information, I have read that a boiler tube is called a tube if it is three inches in diameter or less and, called a flue if three inches or larger. Nice pictures!
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ya know, its been a long time since I've had "That Lovin feelin" but when I look at those pictures I have to admit I'm smitten, cant wait till I'm climbing all over her,
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It appears as though the firebox has one of those unusual "double crowned" crown sheets.
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Yes, it is a standard Garrett corrugated stayless firebox crown. It will be interesting to see what the US boiler inspectors make of it!

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If our experiences with the Marshall engine are anything to go by, my chances of passing the roller in Minnesota will be slim,
but she has a one way passage booked!

If it is unconventional the cogs just start to overheat,

cryptic I know
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