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Old 05-31-2010, 12:18:38 AM
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Hi All,

We have a Page garden tractor with a "BB" Gladden engine from Glendale, CA. It is about a 3 horse power engine. We just pulled it out of the shed today. It had not seen the light of day in many years. It still turns!

Enjoy!
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Cool loos right out of the barn too. Here is a pic of my 46 Page with a wissy motor. I redid it 10yrs back, never fired it up and it currently sits on a shelf in my back shop.
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Old 05-31-2010, 02:54:21 PM
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Hey Candy,
Good looking little tractor!
Could I ask if you would take some more / better pictures of the engine? I have a couple of Gladden AB's and a 50. I have heard of and seen their model 40 and 75, but your BB is a new one to me.
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:58:52 PM
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Hi Jeff,

Man, you did a great restore on that tractor. I guess the BB engine is original to the tractor. Never even heard of a Page or a BB. We really don't know anything about the Page tractor.

Could you please take pictures of the cultivator and the set up of how it attaches to the tractor. My husband is curious. He thinks he might have one around here that might go with it. He just bought it a long time ago and stuffed it away. You know how it is when a guy has a big truck can't leave until it is heaping full.

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Hi John,

I'll post the pictures when I get them. There is an ad here on smokstak about the Gladden engines that has a sketching of the 3 hp BB as well as other engines.
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Funny this should come up. I just picked one of these up at Portland this spring! I had a Page similar to Jeff's with the Wisconsin motor but this was the first I'd seen a Busy bee on one. Now here is a second one! Guess they made at least two. Doug T
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Wow! I've had one of these for 7 years and never saw another. Great to see some out there. Not much info on them. Mine is a wisconsin (don't know the numbers off hand) but they indicated it was a '37 engine if I looked it up right. Showed it at R & T's Harvest last year. I have an brochure for them somewhere here, but they had hood on them. Came in a couple different sizes.
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Hi John,
Here are the BB pictures. Dirty and barn fresh!
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Here are more pictures.

Thanks for looking.
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I got one of them damn things. Got some little Briggs on it. When you throw it in gear, you better have hold of it.
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Wow! I've had one of these for 7 years and never saw another. Great to see some out there. Not much info on them. Mine is a wisconsin (don't know the numbers off hand) but they indicated it was a '37 engine if I looked it up right. Showed it at R & T's Harvest last year. I have an brochure for them somewhere here, but they had hood on them. Came in a couple different sizes.
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Hi Jim,

A '37 is pretty early. That would be cool if the BB was the original engine on the Page. The holes matchup perfectly no tinkering here.
Ours does not have hood mounts so we guess there was no hood on it.

It is nice to know there are kinfolk of Page still out there lurking somewhere.

I wonder how rare is a BB engine is. It would be neat to know how many were made or how many are still around.

Candy
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Hi:

Early brochures mention the Gladden engine. Most had Wisconsin or Briggs. Briggs had union strikes often so my guess is that Gladden was a backup plan if Briggs were not available. This is the first Page I have seen with a Gladden engine.

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Thanks for the additional pictures, Candy.
Previously, I stated "....your BB is a new one to me....",
Well - Duh! I just found a thread (that I started...) where I mention having a reprint of the manual for a Model BB.
More can be read about it HERE. I could probably find that manual again in my archives if you are not in a hurry....
My Model 50 has a similar muffler to yours, but instead of having the opening on the side, mine has the opening on top.


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Early brochures mention the Gladden engine. Most had Wisconsin or Briggs. Briggs had union strikes often so my guess is that Gladden was a backup plan if Briggs were not available. This is the first Page I have seen with a Gladden engine.

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Hi Mike,

BINGO! That is great news that the Gladden engine is mentioned in the brochures. That means it must be original to the Page. Excellent information.
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Hi John,

I'm not in a hurry for the manual. It is nice to know that someone out there has one for it. Information on some models are hard to find.

Thank you for the pictures and link to your AB. It is really cool looking. Great job on the restore.

I'm glad that our BB is actually still on the garden tractor and was not replaced. It must be a rare sight indeed.

How lucky are we to own a great piece of history.

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I've had my Page for about 10yrs, it came from the mid area of Wisconsin orginally. At the time i did a little digging and found it was built by the Page Dairy and something company, in 1946. By 1949 they had been bought out by another company called Poineer. Supposedly only the first couple of yrs used the spoked wheels, after that there solid centered. I noticed that your final drive appear to be cast iron, mine are very poor Alumumn castings and dont have any Page info cast into them. I've looked over my Tractor field books, and only find them listed with the Briggs or wissy engines. I sometimes have wondered on this tractor being built by someone else at an early date, but couldnt really find any factual stuff to support the theory.
Candy i'm still without a working camera interface with my windows 7, so i cant get your picture of the hitch. I can say that its a sq tube with a hole near the end that a large bolt goes up though and screws into the bottom of the diff casting. There are a set of duck bill shovels for the vator that i've never finished(go figure that) and clamp to the bar similar to most other units of the time. My tractor came without a tag on the tractor unit just one for the engine with no referance to Page.

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Hi Jeff,

I understand about the computer and picture struggles. Don't sweat it. My son is a whiz-kid. We compliment each other well. What I don't understand he does and vice-versa.

Thanks for the description of the hitch area and the information on the tractor. The wheel information was an informative tidbit. I like that ours has the word PAGE embossed on it. Too bad, not all garden tractors are not like that.

It was the Page Dairy and Farm Equipment Company of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. My tractor book says 1948 was when they first appeared.

Thanks for your help.
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This is the first Page I have seen with a Gladden engine.

Mike Neuman
Hi Mike,

Dick DeBuse has a great write up on the smokstak thread named "Anybody have info on Gladden Product engine?"
There is also an ad for various engines including the BB.
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Hi All,

Thank you all for the informative information. Boy, there is very little information in my tractor books or on the web about this Page garden tractor.

Through my research I believe that my PAGE to be an ZA-7A model.
ZA-5A model had steel wheels.
ZA-7A model had rubber wheels.

We appreciate your help in this matter.
Candy T. and Family
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Here's a pic of the mount on mine. I know the cultivators are upside down, but it sits nice all by itself that way!
Jim
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