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The NORTHEY Company, Limited, Toronto, Canada.


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Old 07-06-2010, 08:16:25 AM
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Default The NORTHEY Company, Limited, Toronto, Canada.

Anyone here have information about The Northey Company Ltd of Toronto, Ontario? I really need your help on this one as very little info has surfaced on Northey. Indication is that they were in business around 1895 to 1905. They might also have operated under the name: "The Northey Manufacturing Company Ltd" during that period of time.

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Default Re: The NORTHEY Company, Limited, Toronto, Canada.

Here are pictures related to the "unknown engine" which several people have identified as a very early Fairbanks-Morse, with Bee Hive carb and cylinder/crankcase cast as a single piece. This engine came with its nameplate still attached and it identifies it as a 1-1/2hp "Northey Manufacturing Company Ltd" engine.

The horizontal Northey shown in my previous post is similar to but not identical to an early Fairbanks-Morse STANDARD or
"N".

At first I thought that the hozontal and vertical NORTHEY engines were built by Fairbanks-Morse. I now believe in the possibility that NORTHEY engines came first, prior to Fairbanks-Morse acquirring the right to make and sell Northey engines as their own.

The first Northey gasoline engines were built around 1896 and the company had been manufacturing steam engines and boilers and all sort of pumps and mining equipment for many years prior.

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Default Re: The NORTHEY Company, Limited, Toronto, Canada.

Denis:

Wow! If true, that would shed more light on the early Fairbanks-Morse commercial engines.

Another (very rare, I think) early F-M vertical engine must have preceeded the Jack of All Trades and Type T. I recall reading that Fairbanks-Morse didn't manufacture some of their earliest engines. I understand that they bought exclusive badging rights.

I think the Charter industrial engine design ended up being purchased by F-M and called the N series engines.

But, then, I could be wrong.

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Thanks for all the work that you do searching and researching these old engine companies, Denis.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with next.
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Default Re: The NORTHEY Company, Limited, Toronto, Canada.

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Looking forward to seeing what you come up with next.
I'm introducing to you Mr. Thomas Northey.

Here are some United States patents assigned to Northey if you want to look them up:
203553 274647 287706 345253 389240 565993 589191 736428

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Sometime between 1887 and 1898, Thomas Northey, President of "The Northey Company Ltd" was replaced in the same capacity by his son John Pell Northey.

I've tracked down John Pell Northey from the Toronto City Directory:

1900-1903 John P. Northey, President of the Northey Co. Ltd.

1904 John P. Northey listed as staying at home, no apparent job.

1905-1915 John P. Northey, President of the Canadian Fog Signal Co., Ltd.

The Northey Company Ltd seemed to have slipped off the face of the earth during 1903.


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Default Re: The NORTHEY Company, Limited, Toronto, Canada.

a year or two ago i was listening to cbc radio and they were talking about the northey company and the fog horns they made.

here is a link to some info on that subject http://www.terrypepper.com/lights/cl...e/diaphone.htm

i would like to take this time to say thanks denis for all the work you do to gather this information.

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Default Re: The NORTHEY Company, Limited, Toronto, Canada.

Northey Company Ltd is listed in the Toronto directory in 1902 and 1903, but not in 1904.

In 1902, John P. Northey is residing at 40 St. George, Toronto.
in 1903, at 115 Madison Avenue, Toronto.
and in 1904 at 11 Prince Arthur Avenue, Toronto.

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Here is the Northey family in the 1891 census.
(Thomas Northey's occupation is given as Steam pump manufacturer, as is John's):

Name: Thomas Northey
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 71
Birth Year: about 1820
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Religion: Congregationalist
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Province: Ontario
District Number: 119
District: Toronto City
Subdistrict: St Thomas Ward

Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Northey 71
Julia Northey 57
John P. Northey 32
Henretta Northey 30
Bertha Northey 23
Adelin Northey 19
Ethelbert Northey 16
Mary Keenan 26

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Addendum: Marriage record for John P. Northey:

Name: John Pell Northey
Birth Place: Hamilton
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: about 1858
Father Name: Thomas Northey
Mother Name: Julia H Pell Northey
Spouse Name: Adelaide V Wadsworth
Spouse's Age: 28
Spouse Birth Place: Weston
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Wadsworth
Spouse Mother Name: Annie Sullivan
Marriage Date: 29 Nov 1899
Marriage Location: York
Marriage County: York

Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_97
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Default Re: The NORTHEY Company, Limited, Toronto, Canada.

The Toronto City Directories are a great source of info. I found Northey & Co. dating back to at least 1883 manufacturing steam pumps.

1892 Directory states, "Incorporated 1891. Capital $100,000. John P Northey, General Manager". That appears to be the date when Northey & Co. changed name to The Northey Manufacturing Co. Ltd. but still used The Northey Company Limited in advertising.

1899 - first reference to Gas & Gasoline Engines. Northey was the only maker of gasoline engines listed in the Toronto City Directory.

1903 - Northey listed
1904 - Northey disappears
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Denis, you might find someone in the family still has papers and materials related to the company. The name is fairly unusual, so I'd try just phoning some out of the book and seeing if you hit 'pay dirt'. That or get a friendly geneaologist to track down the descendants for you. You never know, some familes keep stuff, some don't.
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