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Buying/Looking at a Crawler Question


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Old 12-16-2010, 08:53:41 PM
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Default Buying/Looking at a Crawler Question

I'm going to look at a crawler I've seen parked in a field, don't know if its for sale or not. I don't even know what make it is. What is the most critical part of an old crawler? Thank you
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:59:23 PM
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TRACKS !!!!!!!!!! Pins, bushings, pads and sprockets . If they are worn out, they can get VERY expensive to rebuild. Also, check to see if the engine is stuck.

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Thank you.
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Old 12-16-2010, 09:21:09 PM
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Let us know what you find out.

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Old 12-16-2010, 10:57:54 PM
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That and transmissions, depending on brand. No good undercarriage parts are cheap, so it gets really expensive REALLY QUICK, and that's if you find any.
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:03:55 AM
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any chance off pictures off the crawler / serial number so it could be idintified thanks
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Old 12-17-2010, 11:31:01 AM
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930dreamer--before you spend any money on an unknown crawler --get someone knowledgeable about crawlers to look at it. (If you have to pay someone to look at it -- well, that will probably be one of your better investments!)

Learning about crawlers by buying one, can lead to some very expensive lessons. If you can acquire it for scrap price and you can get it transported cheaply, then go for it.

I have taken a "flyer" on a Cletrac model W, and a John Deere 420C, and came away smiling. (There are others that I have forgotten about--but my wife hasn't.)

Still cranking away in Rifton,
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Had some snow here in Abq,NM today, when I leave town Saturday I'll take a look at the crawler and take pics. Thanks
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It's a Caterpillar 15 crawler, it has a brass rebuild tag dated 1934,the tracks are stuck. I finally drove past and the owner was there, we talked for an hour or so. No pics yet.
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:52:04 PM
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Dear Dreamer A Cat 15 is a nice little crawler to start with. Pics would be helpful but thjere are a few things to check when you see the machine up close. Rusty tracks may not be a problem as long as the pins and bushings are in good shape. Look at the sprockets and see how much they are worn. how is the sheetmetal and especially the hood. All the rest of the tin can be remade since it is all flat. Check in the gas tank and also look at both sides of the radiator. The engine can be rebuilt but the manifolds and carburetor can set you back a lot of money. Magneto can be replaced but an original is desireable to have. These are just the high points to check. I have 3-15s out back but I am only going to rebuild the wide guage since they are hard to find. Good luck on this and give us some Pics when and if you can.
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Default Re: Buying/Looking at a Crawler Question

Usually any crawler that has been sitting for any length of time will have stuck tracks. This can be a problem if it dosen't run, they will usually loosen up easily enough by soaking the pins with oil and using the engines power to rock them loose. If it don't run however things get a bit more complicated, on larger tractors i've had to jack them up on I beams and cribbing and back the trailer under it and set it down on the trailer. Slow but reasonably safe if you take your time, I've also placed old trailer axles under them to make moving them easier. On a smaller one like the 15 if you have use of a large tractor you may be able to just drag it but even small crawlers have a lot of grip on the ground. We bought one large Allis that was abandoned in a unaccesable ravine and the only way we could get it out was to recondition the motor where it sat and get it running and drive it out on it's own power, it took a few trips to work on it but it worked. Sometimes you just have to get pretty creative to get the job done. Good hunting. F.J.W.
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Wow, this took a while;

http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/ee137/3CL1/CAT15/


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Well it looks pretty straight. Manifold doesn't look bad best I can tell. It's got street pads (may be called something else) on it that have seen lots of wear and have grousers welded on. Can't really see the sprocket. Drawbar has some wear on the bottom. Try to get it if you can, reasonable.
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While taking pics today, I noticed the area around the rear freeze plug looks cracked. Not sure you can see it in these pics but if I zoom in, I see three spider legs. It's bowed out around the freeze plug.

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Default Re: Buying/Looking at a Crawler Question

the sprockets look real good
if the pins & bush's are the same condition? then the rest will not be to hard to do.
as it sits there I would say a bit more than scrap price to start with.

Jake.
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Agreed, they look decent. I wouldn't get too hung up on the freeze crack just yet. You could always braze it back in place since it isn't too bad and that area isn't really structural. Seems like a nice start to a cat 15!
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Thank you for the responses;
Any idea of the weight?
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The weight is roughly in the 5000 - 6000 lbs range. I've got an orchard 15 that needs TLC, it's mostly complete. I'm hoping to start it after a few other projects. You may try the ACMOC website. It has a wealth of info. Very nice people there too. Lots of us from over here.
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We cfinally get to see your little Cat. It looks pretty good and only a few problem areas. It needs a Hood and an original air cleaner setup. As mentioned the manifold looks good and the biggie an original carburetor. It also needs a seat but it is a simple fabrication with correct templates which I could supply if needed. I think scrap price is a good place to start and hope the owner doesn't think its desert gold.
It will cost some to bring it back to life depending on what you find inside and more importatntly how original you want tit to be. Check out my thread Caterpillar 25 Rusty Restoration on this site for ideas of how to proceed. Good luck the little 15s are quite nice. Ed B
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Well I finally have a solid lead on the owner of the Cat. I think I'm going to help him move (sell) some items so maybe we can strike a deal for this Cat in the future. The Cat D2 in the other post I just started is on the same piece of land but owned by another gentlemen.
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