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Deering 1 1/2 M oiler size?

1/4case

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Have 2 M's both missing correct oilers, what is the correct item to purchase?

Im new to flywheelers, I read the oiler needs a check valve? Assume the oilers are for engines and not machinery oilers?
 

SproutW

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11/13/2013
My father recently acquired a 1 1/2 model M and we have the same question.
 

Jeffery Jackson

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11/17/2013
Mine came equipped with a #3 Michigan oiler. Should not need a checkball oiler unless you are loosing a lot of compression past the rings
 

Tom Trainor

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12/19/2019
You do need to have an oiler with a check ball and a relief tube for the M's . For the 11/2 hp either a #2 or a #3 will look just fine
 

Matt1931

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06/11/2016
I'm not sure who makes the org oiler but when you see one after you know what one looks like you can pick it out 3 feet away ( no name on it) filler has a thumb screw.
 

1/4case

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Bought to of them new from Essex Brass out of MI. Been building them since 11'. Ordered a #3 with the ball. Under $70 new.
 

HitMissTinkerer

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Best to my knowledge and open to correction, but the ihc m is a closed pressurized system, if the origonal oil exhuast/vent system is used with the leather pad. Hence needing a check ball in the oiler to prevent the crank case from venting out the oiler. Or i could be wrong....
 

Dick Graybill

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07/26/2020
Model m"s are not to my knowledge pressurized crankcase. They have the breather on the rear of the engine. They do not have to have the oiler with valve and tube in the oiler. If they did a guess mine would not run.
 

LarrapMan

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06/24/2012
Don't all be silly, everyone knows that M's should have an oiler with a check valve and vent tube as does pretty much every engine of that period and earlier. If your's doesn't then it's incorrect, that doesn't mean the world will end if it doesn't have a check valve or the piston rings will melt immediately but it's certainly not the oiler it came out of the factory with.

IHC M's originaly had an oiler that looks very similar to a Lunkenheimer Paragon except a little plainer.





I'm not certain every single M right up until the end of production used them identical to this but most certainly did.

Joe
 

HitMissTinkerer

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Dick im not sure if the term i used is correct. But the breather is opened by air pressure in the case to remove oil. Im no expert by any means. :eek:

L-man that is a nice oiler. Wont ask about the rest of the picture :confused:
 

Dick Graybill

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I'm probably wrong, but I was told the breather was used to equalize the air pressure in the crankcase by allowing air to enter when the piston was going to tdc and releasing pressure when going to bdc ,not to drain excess oil, however I guess it would also do that. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm trying to learn too.
 
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