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Fairbanks Morse Z (I think)

Garak

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Picked this up today.

22" Flywheels, 4 12" diameter piston. If it is a Fairbanks then the serial number (205896) says it's 1916.

It's got a repair to the cylinder head and has a non standard magneto. Can anyone conform the model and HP please.











 

Skip Landis

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That looks like a 3 hp "Z" with a factory sparkplug confersion. Not sure about the mag though. skip
 

Duey C

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What's your serial number? Top of the hopper and perhaps end of the crankshaft.
Guys, is that about an '18 or so? Numbers will tell.
:)
 

Pat Barrett

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Duey check his top post, I think it's listed. Can anyone make out the last name on the mag tag? Thompson ?
 

Kirk Taylor

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That looks like a 3 hp "Z" with a factory sparkplug confersion. Not sure about the mag though. skip
I agree that it is a 3hp Fairbanks Morse Z, however I disagree that it is a factory conversion. The spark plug adapter appears to be a farm fix. It looks like the original low tension Sumpter gear has been adapted to the high tension mag.
 

Duey C

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Duh, thank you. Busy on the brain and stopped in. :)
1916! Cool.
 

Garak

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Thomson-Bennett
The 'Crow's foot' stamp that can be seen indicates that it was used my the military.

Below is some info on Thomson-Bennett Ltd Birmingham, England I found:

‘904 J. A. Thomson met Peter Bennett, then manager of the Electric Ignition Company of Birmingham.
1907 with Thomson's backing, Bennett set up Thomson-Bennett Ltd to manufacture products similar to those of EIC. Thomson-Bennett began making magnetos for specialized purposes; at that time, the German company Bosch had a virtual monopoly of the car magneto market.
When the first World War broke out Thomson-Bennett's expertise as manufacturers of magnetos was key to development of British supplies essential for mechanized transport and aircraft.
1914 Thomson-Bennett had c.100 employees when it was acquired by Joseph Lucas Ltd, particularly for their magneto expertise.
1920 issued catalogue of magnetos.
Peter Bennett became joint managing director of Lucas.’
 

Garak

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To bring this back to life it's going to need everything on the working side, carberetta (damaged in a couple of areas) all pushrods (exhaust valve, carb pump lever), gouvoner (exessive wear).

It will also need a new fuel tank and exhaust silencer.

The cylinder head has a patch which looks like it has never leaked since repair so I may get away without replacing it but the cylinder head / cylinder mating surfaces are very badly pitted by rust so a good seal may be difficult.

The crank bearings are OK as is the piston, and I can re-use the valves, valve rocker & HT mag.

Are spares readly available for this engine (US or UK)?
 

Kanonier74

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Re: Fairbanks Morse Z model B plugocillator

That's a 3hp plugocillator. I have this engine, mine is a 1918. This one was converted to sparkplug high tension magneto. Originally it can with a sumpter number 14 low tension magneto and points igniter.
 
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