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Feild & Brundage / Racine Sattley

John Davidson

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Carl McGhee said:
My 7 HP Field Brundage Type W has remnants of dark green and July 19 raised letter in side of hopper. This is one of my favorite engines, nice slow runner. John Davidson if you want to add this to your roster the serial # is 9357.
Carl; Just checked my roster and find that your number is alredy listed. It used to belong to Munro Tasker of Homer, MI. I knew he died some time ago. He also had 1 1/2 HP Type W, sn 35787. Do you know where that is now? There was one collector in Jackson, MI who had 15 Field built engines His name was Fred Barsons. He left us some 15 years ago. Never heard what happened to that collection. Never got to meet him, only thru the mail.
 

Roger D. Green

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Hi,
I read "out and checked my 5 horse salltey and my 7 horse sattley the 5 horsa has mar 15 cast in raised letters on the hopper/block and the seven horse has july 15 18 cast into it" Where do you find the numbers, I have looked and can't find anything?:(

Thanks
Roger
 

CatoeFarms

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BobRR said:
Catoe. How do your engines date compared to whats in the catalogs? Are your green engines Brundage or nelson brothers? BobRR
My 1 1/2 hp seems to be in the 1917 catalog. In that catalog they show a 2 1/2 hp model not a 3 hp. The 3 hp is in the 1926 catalog. The tags on both only say racine- sattley. One thing is the catalogs show a decal about 2" wide and 6" long insted of the decal you see all the time which is about 4" square with Sattley on it. The latter decals if used will be over the raised dates casted on the water hopper, which seems like the narrow one would be used on these engine. Just quessing. John
 

CatoeFarms

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John Davidson said:
Carl; Just checked my roster and find that your number is alredy listed. It used to belong to Munro Tasker of Homer, MI. I knew he died some time ago. He also had 1 1/2 HP Type W, sn 35787. Do you know where that is now? There was one collector in Jackson, MI who had 15 Field built engines His name was Fred Barsons. He left us some 15 years ago. Never heard what happened to that collection. Never got to meet him, only thru the mail.
My 3 hp 3 speed Racine-Sattley is serial #43620. catoefarms
 

BobRR

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Looks like Field was still building engines in 26??? Mine doesn't have any no. cast in the hopper and has the square decal. My Tag simply says Sattley Montgomery wards with several cities listed below that. Also it has a G(type??) between the hp. and 1 1/2.Do the catalogues make any reference to color? Does any one have some different yr.Wards catalogues from teens or twenty's??BobRR
 

BobRR

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On the 1 1/2hp. engine with a dry head what did they use for a head gasket? My head was off with no gasket. It doesnt have a very wide sealing surface. Will gasket material work or should it be a copper gasket/o-ring?BobRR
 

Al Wait

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My 8 HP t/g Field-Brundage was sold by Brackett, Shaw, and Lunt in Somersworth, NH and has their own Saxon nametag. Look under all the grunge in the bottom of the crankcase for a casting date; that is where I found mine ( Sep-19). Large parts were cast, and then left outdoors to season for a while: a form of stress relief. As I recall, I had several different casting dates on various parts. I estimate that my engine was actually assembled in 1920. It is black, as was the 5 HP F-B Sattley I used to own. Remember that Sattley is just a brand name used by Montgomery-Ward. Just like Sears, M-W didn't make anything, they just contracted with various manufacturers to make things for them. Al Wait
 

BobRR

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Thanks Al. Now I really dont know how to put the dates together on these!:confused: :crazy: Even though since that engine was sold under a differrent name maybe they no. them different for each co.?:confused: Sure would be helpful if someone had abill of sale with date and serial no.for brundage built engine.BobRR
 

Doug Hanneman

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Back in 2002 I was restoring a Racine Sattley 1 1/2 HP SN 18946 by Montgomery Wards with a Webster mag and speed adj. cone on flywheel. I had a simular problem figuring out which color to go with. See the archives and look at my string from 2/10/2002 on Racine Sattley color controversy. After some discusion I went with red, and I was very happy with the results. I was going to post a picture, but couldn't find one stored on my PC and was to lazy to go out in the cold and take one, (it is cold here in wisconsin). :D
 

Doug Hanneman

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I found an old photo of my now painted red 1917 Racine Sattley 1 1/2 HP SN 18946 by Montgomery Wards and scanned it, so here is an attempt to attach that image to this post. I have also seen this engine in black and it also looked very good in that color.

Doug
 

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BobRR

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Doug Nice engine! What did you use to date your engine? Trying to find some point of reference.BobRR
 

Doug Hanneman

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I will have to look through my records and see if I can find out for you. I believe someone on this sight helped, but I can't remmember how any more. The information may be in my garage file, or in the archives on this site. I owned the engine for several years before restoring it, so any archive info would be from back in the late 1990's.

Doug
 

Doug Hanneman

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Bob, I looked through my records and couldn't find a serial number list or anything but only a paper that I wrote on saying that for my SN the engine was 1917. I believe I was told this by someone. I also searched the archives on this site and found some old post from back in 1999 that mentioned that the engines from 1917-1918 were just starting to be sold by Wards and had the well / wick style main bearing lubricators and Webster mags. Try going to the archives and do a serch for "Sattley" and you will get 4 pages of assorted info that may give you some clues to age and other info.

Doug
 

BobRR

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Thanks Doug. One thing I have found is that the Feild built sattleys used 2 different decals. The early ones 1916-17 had a long narrow one then in 18 went to the more square badge looking one. Now just need to find some engines that still have traces of old style decal and see how high the serial no. goes??My engine has the wick style mains also. I think all the feild-sattley engines were like that?Be interesting to hear from someone if theirs has grease cups instead.BobRR
 
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Schramm

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I have one to add to the list:3 H.P.,#44584,R.P.M. 475,hit miss,supposed to have webster mag.

I wonder if we can date them by what city's are listed on the tags.Mine has Chicago,kansas city,fort worth,portland ore,st paul.

Does any body elses tags have different,less or more cities listed on the data tag?

It also has a date cast into the hopper but I have to go out to check what it is.

It also has a pipe plug in the top front of the head,which I was told was for water injection,any thoughts?...schramm...
 
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Rod

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I had a 5HP Sattely which had a "Montgomery Ward" label on it. It was a kerosene burner and was silver.
 

John Updyke

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I have a 2 1/2 HP TG that has the remains of the original green paint. It has wick oilers on the main bearing caps and Webster mag with ignitor bracket 303K11. No tag on water hopper.
 

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