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Florida Flywheeler Fall Fuel up? - Web Pages

Dan Donaldson

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11/18/2014
Harry,

I may have missed someone that could make a huge difference to the Florida Flrwheeler's. YOU!!! I know that you wanted to host the official Florida Flywheeler web site back in the mid to late 90's. I was at the membership meeting when it was brought up. At that time many of the old timers did not understand the importance of a good web site to help promote the club and they shot it down. Now they have an official web site and it is dreadful. I mean terrible. People visiting the web site can't even tell it is an antique engine club. Maybe you could offer to re-vamp the web site and turn it into a web site that defines what the club is supposed to be.

Dan
 

Harry

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Re: Florida Flywheeler's web site

Dan Donaldson said:
I know that you wanted to host the official Florida Flywheeler web site back in the mid to late 90's. I was at the membership meeting when it was brought up. At that time many of the old timers did not understand the importance of a good web site to help promote the club and they shot it down. Now they have an official web site and it is dreadful. I mean terrible. People visiting the web site can't even tell it is an antique engine club.
Yes, and that was a dreadful meeting. I went to a couple of business meetings and then went to that fateful general meeting where I, as an internet person, was associated with internet pornography by the old goats. It was stated that I would bring in a "bad element" to the shows that couldn't be trusted.

I went on anyway to create a page for the Florida Flywheelers and had always taken photos at shows and presented pages on the activities whether they liked it or not. My slant was toward antique engines and not tractor pulls and old buildings, so later on, another web person come onto the scene. This person was "old building" oriented and her partner was "golf cart" oriented so I guess you can see where this is going. I quickly determined that they had absolutely no knowledge about antique engines. To make the long story short, the club took these people in as the "official" web masters and MY page design was taken over as well. OK, so I severed the relationship.

I tried to call you on the phone and I will try again later. In the meantime, I'll put up a few links here from my personal web site and the archives for a historical view of the club on the internet. You're right, their web page ____, well, if you can't say something good, don't say it. I have a whole bunch of correspondence on file somewhere here regarding that take-over.

Suffice it to say (and I travel to engine shows all over this country) their show has turned into a tractor show.

http://www.old-engine.com/fallfuel.htm

http://www.old-engine.com/fwshow.htm

http://www.old-engine.com/fwpark.htm

http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=751

http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2361

http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2763

http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3033
 

Harry

Administrator
Re: Florida Flywheeler - web site

Courtesy of the "Way Back" machine, (You do know that the internet has a time machine, don't you?)

Here is my Florida Flywheelers home page from:

January 1999:
http://web.archive.org/web/19990117024326/http://old-engine.com/flywheel.htm

October 2001:
http://web.archive.org/web/20011022023210/http://www.old-engine.com/flywheel.htm

October 2002:
http://web.archive.org/web/20021010094627/http://www.old-engine.com/flywheel.htm

That all came from: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.old-engine.com/flywheel.htm

The internet is a fantastic thing isn't it?

Here's "their" page from December 2002:
http://web.archive.org/web/20021211095801/http://www.floridaflywheelers.com/

That came from http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://floridaflywheelers.com[/url You can go WAY BACK and look at ANY web page on the WAYBACKMACHINE [url]http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

Anyway, 'nuff of this. I've got work to do on the Stak. :)

As seen on my old Florida Flywheers page:
For an excellent article by Dan Donaldson on the Florida Flywheelers Club, about its beginnings and present growth, see the December 1997 issue of Gas Engine Magazine, Page 21.
So, there's Dan Donaldson! :D
 

Harry

Administrator
Re: Florida Flywheeler Fall Fuel up? More Like Fall Flea Market & Yard/Home Junk Clean-up

Oh, you'll love this - I spent some time reminising the old pages:

Here's EnginAds first home page in 1999:

http://web.archive.org/web/19991128142420/http://enginads.com/

And Harry's Old Engine as it looked in January 1999:

http://web.archive.org/web/19990125091240/http://old-engine.com/

I couldn't bring up my 1995 pages - probably before the way-back machine existed.

Whupps! Here's one from 1997:
http://web.archive.org/web/19970627130204/http://www.oswego.edu/~matthews/

(Note the copyright dates at the bottom of those pages!)

I contaminated the Florida Flywheelers discussion on the previous thread so I moved the diversion over here. I love this new bulletin board software! No more physical file editing!
 

Dan Donaldson

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11/18/2014
Re: Florida Flywheeler Fall Fuel up? Thread Continued

Harry,

I was on the phone for a while last night talking to Dick Ambler (Vice President of the Florida Flywheelers). He agrees with a lot of what has been discussed on this message board reguarding the direction the club heading. Some of the issues such as the newsletter and the membership directory are being improved. Other issues of concern are being looked at but solutions are difficult to come by. The major area of concern is how to inspire a new generation of engine collectors to get involved. As discussed on the message board in the past the rising cost of getting into this hobby is a large factor. I discussed with him the need for a better web site. Call me tonight if you would like.

I did not know about the Way Back Machine. There is probably (definitely) a whole world of wonderous things out there I don't know exists.

Concerned about the future of the Florida Flywheelers, and other clubs.
Dan Donaldson
 

Jeff Smith

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08/05/2018
Re: Florida Flywheeler Fall Fuel up? Thread Continued

Dan,

The rising cost are a major issue. Everytime I listen to an oldtimer talk to me about carrying on the hobby, I find it humerous that they will not drop the price on something so I can buy it. They want the next guy to drop the price.

I would love to have an old car or truck to drive to the shows, and until someone decides that they want me in the hobby of old cars or trucks enough to give me one that requires little or no work, then I will continue to just look at them...........and they can still talk about trying to grow the hobby. It would go to a good home though, and I would keep it for many years and give it to my boys if they wanted it incase anyone wants to give me one :) .

Jeff Smith
 

TABest55

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09/05/2017
Re: Florida Flywheeler Fall Fuel up? Thread Continued

Harry,
Thanks for that information regarding the web page archives. When I had Steam Industries I cancelled the web page and then lost the disk it was saved on and now I can save it all again. Funny you mentioned being associated with porn because soon after Steamindustries.com was shut down a friend called me and asked what kind of business I was in now. Sure enough it was a matter of days after shutting down the web site the name was picked up by a porn operator. That was a Shock.

As for Flywheeler Park, there should be enough room for everybody....just a matter of seperating the flea market from the engine stuff. I'm guilty of not taking anything to the show to make it better. Dan is right that if we participate and try to make it better it will be better. I know Tom Crevasse worked hard to get his 75 Case there to run the sawmill and it sure was nice to see it operate.
Ted Best
 
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