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New Zealand Made Engines

Rusty Engines

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New Zealand is a small country even smaller when those engines were made??
Some of the brands you see outside NZ as they were made elsewhere not in NZ, sold in NZ yes
I also think some of them look like they might of been re-badged
For such a small country with most of the population in the North Island why so many manufactures in the South Island
Where were they made? Christchurch?
Ian
 

Merv C

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Ian,
All the engine makes listed here are made in NZ. Richard Robinson wrote a book a few years ago on NZ made engines. There were more than forty different makes and the only make that I know of that were a direct copy was the Boothmack which was a copy of the Fowler and may have been made under licence during the war.
R J Laird had an influence in several makes such as Twigg, Morrin and some others which bear a similarity to the Capel which he also had a hand in designing, after he emigrated to NZ in about 1906.
Anderson in Christchurch were the most prolific, making more than 10,500. Although not unlike Lister in design they were being made before Lister started making engines, so they weren't influenced by them. Anderson's were making engines in 1906.
I don't think there are any badged engines sold as NZ makes although undoubtedly some designed were influenced by overseas engines especially marine engines and one that comes to mind is the Orion a four poster marine engine that is similar to the 'Frisco Standard and Union and was made in Dunedin by H E Shacklock Ltd.
Merv.
 

Pedro

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So who has the oldest running NZ made engine?, photo proof of serial No, and photo of engine running.
 

Bug1929

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There is an Orion Marine Engine in the Southward Car Museum in Paraparaumu. If you look up the museums internet site you will see it.
 

typak

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I have an Orion here, about 4/5hp similar to a Frisco which I have as well but many small differences.
I don't think its the oldest but it is real old. Only markings is #2 stamped in rod bearing, crank and transmission main shaft.
Its a good runner and in original condition. Try to get some pictures up soon.
Kim
 

typak

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Here s some pictures of the Orion.
It's a real early one with the round hole flywheel and no mechanical lubricators or preheated manifold.
 

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raymondj

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Reggs, do you know the name of the launch that "Twigg" came out of. I had a bit to do with one of those "Orion" engines in a launch on the waikato many years ago.
regards ray:wave:
 

Bug1929

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Enclosed is three photo's of the Mason and Porter engine Style: 1 and Serial No: 24. Note the spark plug is mounted on the side of the barrel and not on the top of the barrel. Also note that the engine has spoked flywheels instead of the disc type flywheels on all the Masport range. Regards from Geoff McCarten.
 

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tim2010

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I have a Super-Simplex branded Masport No. BM520 - style 2 I assume. There has also been one at Clarendon (No.B513). What date would these be?
Cheers,
Tim
 

Neville Bond

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A mate of mine who lives in Australia had Mordiesel , sadly he did,nt get it running and sold it, there is one on YouTube, looks a heavy beast !
 

Bug1929

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Trevor Leader told me about this engine and I got it for him, it's a 1903 Pither Engine found in Foxton Beach, made in Invercargill, the engine had been put in a launch. Peter Lynn bought it, then he restored it and now it's back in Invercargill where it was made. This engine was the only complete engine found so far. There is a parts engine in Invercargill too. He made a car too.
 

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Merv C

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Here is a photo of the Pither that now resides in Invercargill.
Merv

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Peter Short

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Not sure if you want to include steam engines, for example back in 1986 Doug Wheeler searched the boiler records and found 10 different NZ firms had built portable steam engines, though not many, only 17 recorded. At time of writing (1986) only one was known to survive - a G. Fraser & Co. of Auckland.
This from Vintage Farming #37, page 5. No traction engines though as far as he knew.

Builders for portable steam engines:

H. Bach, Auckland
W. Dally, Lyttelton
G. Fraser & Co. Auckland
Kincaid & McQueen, Dunedin
S. Luke & Co., Wellington.
T. Masefield, Auckland.
E.W. Mills, Wellington
Seagar, Auckland
Vulcan, Auckland
Yeoman, Auckland.

Then of course there were steam engines for stationary use, marine engines, winch engines and no doubt other uses made by quite a few firms. I saw a beautiful A&G Price stationary steam engine from 1877 lying in pieces a couple of years back, I wanted to give it a safe home.

Lots of NZ-made steam locos, but that might be stretching the thread a little far into a completely different scene :)

Tractors? hmmmm how about the 1930's-40's Kemp electric tractors made to use power from the Ashburton Electric Power board? Seven tractors "built" actually they were a Wallis tractor fitted with electric motor, the rest were Hart Parr, 4 x 18-36 and 3 x 12-24 machines. The Hart Parrs had an ideal frame, remove the engine and fit an electric motor with large cable drum and spooling gear. These experimental tractors clocked up almost 18,000 hours....
 

Bug1929

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I once owned a NZ made Murray Steam Engine it was hooked up to a Luke stationary boiler. Murray steam engines were made in Wanganui. Photo's enclosed of the Luke boiler.
 

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sawdustnstuff

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Hi there Wayne my name is Neil and I am restoring an Anderson for our local heritage museum the engine number is 3712 any info would be greatly appreciated thanks
 

agusta74

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Anyone reading this heard about engines made by "J.H. Adams and co" of Auckland?? I have thread going about one their engines looking for information.
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Gavin
 

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