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Reeves are Sweet!

Mike Harmeling

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Re: Reeves are sweet!

Gary,

I was lent them by a woman whose grandfather had been a salesman for the Reeves company. They have been in her possession for decades but hadn't seen the light of day. Knowing of my involvement in the hobby, her husband offered them to me for scanning.

They are now back in their care, but in good hands.

They had approached the Henry Ford Museum to donate them, but the hoops to jump through to donate were felt to be prohibitive so they decided to keep them safe and secure in their collection of antique/vintage photos.

Mike
 
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11/13/2013
Re: Reeves are sweet!

Gary,

I was lent them by a woman whose grandfather had been a salesman for the Reeves company. They have been in her possession for decades but hadn't seen the light of day. Knowing of my involvement in the hobby, her husband offered them to me for scanning.

They are now back in their care, but in good hands.

They had approached the Henry Ford Museum to donate them, but the hoops to jump through to donate were felt to be prohibitive so they decided to keep them safe and secure in their collection of antique/vintage photos.

Mike
Mike,
First of all, I'm so glad they trusted you to scan them. What a blessing.

I know they are trying to do their best to reassemble a Reeves Historical association and museum at Columbus, Indiana. Would they consider donating them to that facility, so they wouldn't get lost again years down the road when these people's lives depart us? I get nothing out of that facility, but Bill Stahl is very involved in the care and operation of their Reeves steam engines. Their museum is entirely Reeves oriented.

As much as I'd love owning them, I have copies and the hard copies should be in the right location for perpetuity. Just my humble opinion.
Thank you, Gary :shrug:
 

OTTO-Sawyer

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Not much information on this one.

Supposedly a LOCAL Post Card but there are no markings on it to confirm that.

Pretty Sure it's a Reeves though.

I can't see the valve chest on it but the pulley looks like the Reeves set up as does the rear wheel spoke pattern.

:salute:
 

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Re: Reeves are sweet!

Not much information on this one.

Supposedly a LOCAL Post Card but there are no markings on it to confirm that.

Pretty Sure it's a Reeves though.

I can't see the valve chest on it but the pulley looks like the Reeves set up as does the rear wheel spoke pattern.

:salute:
I'm pretty sure it is a 20 hp double simple Reeves, OTTO-Sawyer. It's possible it is a 16 hp? If I could see the smokebox door ring.......:brows: Gary:brows:
 

halcon

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The crick looks quite dry. May be he couldn't pass beside the rickety bridge for some reason. I hope he jumped or some body lost there great grandfather.
 

MPierce

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Re: Reeves are sweet!

Gary,

I was lent them by a woman whose grandfather had been a salesman for the Reeves company. They have been in her possession for decades but hadn't seen the light of day. Knowing of my involvement in the hobby, her husband offered them to me for scanning.

They are now back in their care, but in good hands.

They had approached the Henry Ford Museum to donate them, but the hoops to jump through to donate were felt to be prohibitive so they decided to keep them safe and secure in their collection of antique/vintage photos.

Mike
I concur with Gary. Contact Bill Stahl. I KNOW they would be interested, and it would be with other Reeves stuff. Great idea, Gary! I have his contact info if you need it.
 
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Re: Reeves are sweet!

I concur with Gary. Contact Bill Stahl. I KNOW they would be interested, and it would be with other Reeves stuff. Great idea, Gary! I have his contact info if you need it.
Bill Stahl and I are friends on Facebook, Melvin, but I don't have his other contact types, if you want to message them to me? He should be in my old address book of engine men. Gary:shrug::brows:
 

OTTO-Sawyer

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07/15/2019
Re: Reeves are sweet!

Not much information on this one.

Supposedly a LOCAL Post Card but there are no markings on it to confirm that.

Pretty Sure it's a Reeves though.

I can't see the valve chest on it but the pulley looks like the Reeves set up as does the rear wheel spoke pattern.

:salute:
Well, I 'won' the Post Card on eBay.

Still won't be able to see the Smokebox Door Ring (for Gary) but hoping to get a clearer image of the rest of it anyway.

Should have it in a few days.

:salute:
 
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Re: Reeves are sweet!

Well, I 'won' the Post Card on eBay.

Still won't be able to see the Smokebox Door Ring (for Gary) but hoping to get a clearer image of the rest of it anyway.

Should have it in a few days.

:salute:
I'm glad you won that postcard, OTTO-Sawyer. I looked some more. It has to be a 20 and not a 16 hp. I notice it has the rear water tank at the right. I've never seen one on a 16 hp Reeves that wasn't a Highwheeler. But 20 hp Reeves engines were common with them. Mike and Randy's has this one. Gary;)
 

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Did we ever know, or figure out, how many 40 hp Reeves were built?
Lyle Hoffmaster, the real Mr. Reeves and me, his student, agreed there were either 50 or 51 built, Rick. There were two prototypes built. They travelled to some of the state fairs in 1908. Then two lots of a dozen (12 each, 24 built total) of these first US type 40-120 hp engines. I believe they all had Brownell 150 psi, lap-seam boilers. After the Alberta Boiler Law in 10-1-1909, Harry Clay had to go back to the drawing board and design his Canadian Special engines, in order to import to Canada. A good deal of the 40 hp Reeves engines ended up in Canada. The first dozen boilers of the third lot of 40 hp engines were built by Broderick Brothers. These were now 175 psi butt strap boilers, making the new engine rating 40-140. The last dozen boilers for engines built by Reeves (actually Emerson-Brantingham) were built by Titusville Iron works.

There was one more possibility of an engine here in Montana. My late steam friend and mentor, Charlie Tyler, of Moore, Montana went to Havre, Montana to look at it to buy the engine. I put a photo below of what I believe was that engine he looked at. Charlie knew about the Pugsley Brother's 40-140 hp Reeves on the Marias River, that the Smolik Brothers later bought. He tried to buy it, but he told me, "They wanted $3,000 for it!" Charlie had been used to buying steam engines in the early 1950's, in the "$300" ballpark and he hesitated on the Pugsley engine. The Smolik Brothers even stopped at the Tyler Ranch on their way through Montana in 1955, when they located the engine and bought #6867. Since Charlie lost the Pugsley 40-140 to Smoliks, he travelled back to Havre to buy that 40-120 hp US engine. Sadly, when he'd arrived they informed him the engine had been scrapped. Charlie's son Max told me his dad sat in the shop and cried for a few days over losing the Pugsley engine, and later that US 40.

Max later described that US engine at Havre, Montana. He said it was basically a 32 hp Reeves double simple engine that the company had placed "the first" 40 hp engine on, to try it out and see if it'd be a feasible engine. The 32 hp double simple and 40 hp cross compound engines basically had the same boilers. The one below has 40 hp wheels, making me sort of skeptical, but I truly believe this could have been that "FIRST prototype," making the 51st engine. It has the early style of piping on it. I know Max Tyler never saw the engine. His recollection of it could be off some, at the later date in the 1970's when he told me about it. This engine was likely put together in 1906 or 1907. Gary:brows:

PS: I believe I located where 16 or 17 of these engines were shipped to Montana, for their owners.
 

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halcon

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There are many little things in that pix that shows us what day to day working was like in that day. Looks like they came up with a laundry set up to wash there overalls, there would be no shortage of hot water.
 
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Can you find the main steam line in that photo, Clyde? I see the valve on the steam dome and possibly the governor. The pop valve is on the left side of the steam dome. Maybe they covered it with asbestos?? Gary:shrug:
 

Caleb Carpenter

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I think its just the photo. If you look at some of boards from mill roof they just kinda "disappear" into thin air
 

halcon

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I think its just the photo. If you look at some of boards from mill roof they just kinda "disappear" into thin air
Yes Caleb has it, it shows up pretty well in the pix on my phone but it seams to have lost it when enlarged. It might have been taken against the sun on a dull day.
 
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