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Update on Identification of engine

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David Bliss

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Can anyone give me any more information about my engine? It seems, from the number on the igniter bracket (303M56), that there is a connection to Termatt and Monahan, Oshkosh, Wisconsin.

It is definitely 1921 or later, the brass plate on the hopper says Mackies (1921) Ltd. It has marked similarities to the T & M Wiscona Pep engine, but has ball bearing main bearings, a completely open crank with a light tin splashguard, a different water hopper and a different fuel tank. The cylinder head, carburettor, igniter, flywheels, gears and piston of the Wiscona are identical to mine.

It is also very similar to two other engines I have had, a Teles Smith and a Walden, both of which also had the ball bearing cranksaft. Most parts on these would have been interchangeable with mine but they both differed from mine in having high-tension ignition. The Teles Smith also had a slightly different carburettor; the Walden had a heavy cast iron crank splashguard supporting the magneto, different valve operating gear and a different carburettor. All these engines seem to suffer from the same faults: weak crank shafts break, if the throttle spring breaks the governor arm falls into the flywheel, breaking the governor arm itself or a piece out of the cylinder block, and the throttle butterflys can fall off internally and become stuck.

Did T & M export some variants to British manufacturers, perhaps? In discussions with engine enthusiasts here in Britain the names Hobbes and British Lion have cropped up several times.


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Hi David, don't forget that all the number on the Mag bracket proves is that that bracket was sold by Webster Elec. Co., to anyone with price, and was meant to fit a particular line of Termaat Monahan engines.

It is possible that a "Low" production builder in England could have purchase a number of 303M56 brackets and Mags and designed their engine to use those parts.

Are any pictures available that could offer a bit more detail ?
 
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